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	 <title>Cubs @ Cardinals, 7/4/2008</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428263#428263</link>
	 <description>This is a VERY important series.  IMHO, the Cubs are the class of the NL.  Yes, it pains me to say that.  So this series will help show where the Cards really rank against the best competition available in the NL.  The nice thing is, the Cubs really struggle on the road, so that should give us an advantage.

If we can start this series off on a good note tonight, I like our matchups the rest of the weekend.

Come on Cardinals, start our holiday weekend off in style!!

Oh, and Albert, we know you were pressing on purpose against the Mets just so you could hit #300 against the Cubs.  So let's get it out of the way early tonight.  :wink: [7 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>spydr31</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:01:21 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Padres Release Edmonds, Cubs Next?</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428260#428260</link>
	 <description>First at Bat give him a Standing O after that Booo him [227 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>jwisham</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:40:58 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Jays Want to Get Rid of Burnett to Replace Eckstein</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428257#428257</link>
	 <description>id love to have Burnett :lol: [7 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>jwisham</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:36:43 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Brewers to Trade LaPorta for Sabathia Rumors</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428255#428255</link>
	 <description>Wow... that's not good for the NL Central if the Brewers indeed acquire Sabathia.

They're crazy if they give up both LaPorta and Escobar, though. [1 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:20:06 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>&quot;L&quot; Flag for Cubs Series</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428254#428254</link>
	 <description>[quote:f2f57fcfa7="MediasBlancas"]That "L" flag was flying a lot at U.S. Cellular Field this past weekend when the White Sox swept the Cubs on the South Side.[/quote:f2f57fcfa7]

maybe we can borrow their design and include the "Cubs Baseball - 100 years of losing...the tradition lives on!" phrase on the bottom [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>cardinalfan4life</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:10:47 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>McGwire Maintains Silent Presence, Quietly Helps Hitters</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428251#428251</link>
	 <description>There is one reason Mac and the others didn't just 'fess up that I don't think has been considered.
What if he or even others that were given a legal immunity and just needed to confess were being pressured by MLB players,  management,  ownership or the commisioners office to not come clean?  What if it were to come out that ownership was just turning a blind-eye to the whole thing?  The threat of a life-time ban from baseball could be a very strong  influence. [28 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CardinalJayhawk</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:55:02 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Folks, Lets Be Apart of History, Regarding Shoeless Joe</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428249#428249</link>
	 <description>[quote:df3abffb59="CardinalJayhawk"]Basically both Rose and Jackson were banned for associating with gamblers.  So why are major league teams allowed to take advertising money from casinos?[/quote:df3abffb59]
Your argument is pretty easy to deflate (if you were serious), but I'll not do it because the premise is not at all correct. Neither Rose nor Jackson were banned for associating with gamblers. [17 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>atomdrums</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:11:40 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Pujols Reaches Out to Family of Teen Who Died in Crash</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428236#428236</link>
	 <description>That's a really touching story.  As much as I tire of hearing Albert's name, there's no denying that he has a big heart. [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>duncstein</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:06:13 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>2008 Gold Glove League Discussion Thread</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428233#428233</link>
	 <description>[quote:0746374e20]yawkey i'd be more than happy to take it, I'd like to take you on and show you what I made of and draft fresh, I know i'm better now than when we orignally drafted back when I was 18.[/quote:0746374e20]So I guess with age comes the wisdom to not draft Pat Burrel with the number one pick?

[quote:0746374e20]CFIA if its not you i'm hurting than who is it i'm giving the biggiest beatdown of the week to?[/quote:0746374e20]I don't know. I guess the guy whose team sucks almost as bad yours.

[quote:0746374e20]reseel when all my pieces are togather I belive I can contend.[/quote:0746374e20]Yes, once Konerko gets off that DL, the sky is the limit.

[quote:0746374e20]i'll say it agian I might move to another league in 09.[/quote:0746374e20]You do that, and I will leak this over to the "white sox forums". No more moderatin' for you. You will have no credibility over there. Tim Donaughy will ref in the NBA before you get the chance to ever ban some troll over there again.

God bless, and happy Independence Day! [524 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CardsFanInArk</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:26:27 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Player of the Game Thread</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428230#428230</link>
	 <description>The Freak on the cover of SI -2

Villone - 1 [688 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CajunCardinal</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:13:24 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>GAME THREAD Mets @ Cards 7/3/08</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428229#428229</link>
	 <description>Option Boggs. The Mitchell experiment was a failure. He wasn't even really good on last week's road trip.

He made me so angry tonight, I almost kidney punched the poor woman sitting next to me in the stadium. Luckily my tickets were free tonight.  :? [26 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinal_Beams</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:06:43 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Joe Buck &quot;Bored&quot; With Baseball</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428224#428224</link>
	 <description>I do not know if this is the right forum to post this, and I do not know if someone posted this already (a search effort on this yielded no specifically discernable results).  Yet, Joe Buck talked to ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd this past Wednesday and, well, admits that he is not really into sports (especially baseball) anymore.

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/07/joe-buck-admits-he-rarely-watches.html

Disagree with me if you want, but I find this distrubing. [0 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>MediasBlancas</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:38:06 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Catchers Mask Data</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428221#428221</link>
	 <description>Obviously you can't read or didn't read the previous posts.
None of the catchers has thrown the mask.  No one has been removed for not performing.  No kid on my team has [b:0e68a25c3a]ever[/b:0e68a25c3a] been yelled at by me or one of my coaches or been removed for failing to make a play.  It's a question of safety.  The parent had been asked not to do what they were doing,  quietly away from the kids.  It wasn't a matter between the parent and the coach because I would have looked fairly stupid running between the dugout and behind the bleacher to whisper that,  since I am both the catchers parent and his coach.  The catcher has worn this gear for 7 seasons so guess what?  Not removing it is what's natural.  
No one ever said anything about any incoherent communication or lack of give and take.  
I asked for data about safety not strategy.  Neither did I ask for a critique on my 15 years as a coach and a teacher.  I do both for the kids,  not the parents.  They are my focus.  Kids with good attitudes that are trying their best will always have a place on my team and always have.
I also didn't ask for anyone to openly take a crack at me personally.  Particularly from someone that just looks for worthless arguments and knows nothing of me.  Yes,  it is my team.  I make not one dime while finding donations for kids whose parents don't have the money for their fees and uniforms.  At the beginning of each season I put it in writing that I don't know everything and there are other ways to do things,  Just come to me and discuss them.  This parent didn't like the way I decided to do it after meeting with the catchers parents.   [b:0e68a25c3a]All[/b:0e68a25c3a]  the parents of the other catchers agreed with me as it turned out.  This parent didn't like it because it wasn't his way.
I asked for information which others respectfully gave.  All urinalboy did was try to be insulting,  exactly like the parent in question. [10 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CardinalJayhawk</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:23:14 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>What's Up With Wainright?</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428214#428214</link>
	 <description>[quote:1f1e24b7b4="CardsFanInArk"][quote:1f1e24b7b4="wheresmyurinal"]It is amazing how detailed they are with MLB player injuries.  The guy sprained his finger!!  That's it.  If any of us had gone to a hospital with a sprained finger, they'd laugh us back to our cars.  Wrap it up and suck up the pain you panzy.  Yet these guys have MRI's of fingers to verify the obvious.  Quite funny the human condition is....[/quote:1f1e24b7b4]Wainwright is a pitcher. He gets paid to throw a ball. It is necessary to be able to grip a ball to throw a ball.

If you would have sprained a finger you would be forced to lay off the Dungeons and Dragons and be unable to post on this board as much. Therefore, that is not a big deal.[/quote:1f1e24b7b4]

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
Somebody mark this as a nomination for post of the year. [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CardinalJayhawk</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:25:23 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Diamondbacks Fading, Rays for Real?</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428209#428209</link>
	 <description>[color=darkred:4430c4c0e0]That was an [i:4430c4c0e0]amazing[/i:4430c4c0e0] 9th to be watching. Great comeback, hoping that's what turns them around. With Byrnes possibly being out the remainder of the season, they'll need someone to step up &amp; be their energy. I pick Orlando Hudson ;)[/color:4430c4c0e0] [8 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>BRM_229</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:00:19 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Cubs On Fire!</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428207#428207</link>
	 <description>[quote:d97dabead5="CajunCardinal"]Now 6-12 in last 18 road games and 2-8 in the last 10.

[img:d97dabead5]http://www.flagpro.com/store/media/L_flag.gif[/img:d97dabead5][/quote:d97dabead5]

 Very nice. [176 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:50:47 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Cards Montage for ESPN</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428171#428171</link>
	 <description>[quote:f11d860b7b="chevyman58"]I hope nobody falls down &amp; hurts themselves backpedaling, we've had enough injuries.  :roll:[/quote:f11d860b7b]

Go back and read my first post. Does it really sound like I'm serious? Did the wink at the end not give away my sarcasm enough for you?

I mean, geez, I'm not Obama here. [52 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:15:15 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>I Lived Out a Fantasy</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428170#428170</link>
	 <description>Wow, I completly forgot about that game!! I loved the 2 on 2 action, that was pretty cool!! [5 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardsnation</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:09:11 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>2008 Jack Buck League Discussion</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428162#428162</link>
	 <description>[quote:83e308b87d="MadHungo"]Lol No_1, I'd forgotten that BC &amp; I even made this trade  :lol: 

Who'd I get in return btw?  :shock:[/quote:83e308b87d]

Brandon Lyon, I think.

Ryan Franklin, Joe Rauch (Chad Cordero's replacement as Nationals closer), Mike Gonzalez (Braves closer), and Damaso Marte (Matt Capps replacement) are all on the trading block. SP in return, if possible. [309 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:00:31 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Shuttle Bus info</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428161#428161</link>
	 <description>Wow, thanks for the info Yawkey! That'll be very helpful. [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:44:23 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Batavia Muckdogs (Short Season)--2008</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428147#428147</link>
	 <description>Lance LYNN the second pick for the cardinals in this years draft is really pitching well..

0.00 era

6.2 IP
 
5 K's 

opponets batting .130 

3 games

***he will eventually start but is getting back into the scheme of things... Looks to be soon as he went 3 innings in his last relief appearance [14 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>stlandnyr</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:11:51 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Cards to Monitor Freddy Garcia Session?</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428143#428143</link>
	 <description>It fits the mold of the Cardinals management to pick him up.  After all, he is on the DL. [2 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>wheresmyurinal</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:57:35 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Memphis Redbirds (AAA)--2008</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428142#428142</link>
	 <description>[b:de598e9b0c]Memphis rallies by Nashville[/b:de598e9b0c]
[i:de598e9b0c]Seventh inning rally leads ‘Birds past Sounds [/i:de598e9b0c]

Memphis, Tenn. – Memphis used a seventh inning rally to beat Nashville 3-2 Wednesday night at AutoZone Park.

The Redbirds trailed 2-1 entering the bottom of the seventh. Jarrett Hoffpauir led off with a double and scored on Rico Washington’s single to center field to tie the game. After a Brian Barden single put runners on first and second Joe Mather came through with a single to left to score Washington. The bullpen took it from there with Mark Worrell and Kelvin Jimenez each tossing one scoreless inning apiece. Jimenez picked up his team-best sixth save. Nick Stavinoha, David Freese and Bryan Anderson all had two hits to lead the ‘Birds.

Ben Howard took the loss in relief for Nashville giving up two runs on four hits in 1.1 innings. Starter Mark DiFelice pitched five innings and allowed one run on three hits. Seven Memphis pitchers combined to scatter four Nashville hits and fan eight. Anthony Reyes started the game for the Redbirds on a major league rehab assignment and gave up one run on one hit in 2.1 innings. The right-hander threw 47 pitches, 27 strikes. Ron Flores earned the win with one inning of spotless relief.

Memphis wraps up their homestand and four-game series tomorrow night against Nashville. Clayton Mortensen gets the ball for the ‘Birds and will face left-hander Lindsay Gulin. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05 p.m. with a fireworks show scheduled following the game. [117 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinal70</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:45:39 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Quad Cities River Bandits (Low A)--2008</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428141#428141</link>
	 <description>[b:6b0b490faf]BANDITS BATTLE WEATHER, LOSE THIRD STRAIGHT[/b:6b0b490faf]

[i:6b0b490faf]Wallace makes pro debut at Modern Woodmen Park[/i:6b0b490faf]
 

Cardinals’ first-rounder Brett Wallace made his professional debut on Wednesday night at Modern Woodmen Park, but the 13th overall pick in the 2008 draft could not save the Quad Cities River Bandits, who sat through a 1 hour and 22 minute rain delay before dropping their third straight game in a 9-3 loss to the Cedar Rapids Kernels. 

Wallace went 0-for-2 with two walks in his first game as a pro, while Quad Cities (6-8, 39-39) managed just one hit and watched their overall record fall back to the .500 mark. Cedar Rapids (10-4, 42-40) carried a combined no-hitter into the eighth inning, when Pete Kozma sliced a base hit to right field for the Bandits’ only knock of the game. 

Four Kernels pitchers combined on the one-hitter, though they also issued six walks, hit two batters, and allowed three runs, two of which were earned. Robert Fish got it started with one hitless inning, walking three and allowing all of the runs before the rain delay prematurely ended his night. Sammy Leon (2-1) took the mound after the delay and twirled four hitless frames out of the bullpen to earn the win. Ysmael Carmona then worked two hitless innings to take the no-no through seven frames, before Kozma’s single off Tom Kiely led off the eighth and finally got Quad Cities into the “hits” column. 

Meanwhile, the Kernels hopped out to an early lead in the top of the second inning. Jay Brossman led off the frame with a solo homer to left and Cedar Rapids followed with three consecutive singles that loaded the bases. Two more runs crossed the plate on consecutive groundouts before Ryan Groth dropped a flare single into right, driving home another run on to stretch the Kernels’ lead to 4-0. 

The rain began to fall as Quad Cities came to the plate in the bottom of the second. Nick Peoples was hit by a pitch to open the inning and back-to-back walks to Tommy Pham and Paul Vazquez loaded the bases with nobody out. But as the downpour worsened, the game was put into a rain delay before Ross Oeder could step to the plate. 

The stoppage in play lasted nearly an hour and a half before the River Bandits resumed their rally. Oeder hit a bouncing ball towards third that Jerry Gonzalez picked up cleanly, but his throw to second base sailed into right field and allowed two runs to score. With men at the corners D’Marcus Ingram sent... [130 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinal70</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:44:38 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Your 2008 NL All-Star Team</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428136#428136</link>
	 <description>AL 

Starters 
C: Joe Mauer 
1B: Kevin Youkilis 
2B: Ian Kinsler 
SS: Michael Young 
3B: Alex Rodriguez 
OF: Josh Hamilton 
OF: Manny Ramirez 
OF: Ichiro Suzuki 
DH: Jim Thome 

Bench 
Justin Morneau 
Evan Longoria 
Placido Polanco 
Derek Jeter 
A.J. Pierzynski 
Ivan Rodriguez
Milton Bradley
Magglio Ordonez
J.D. Drew 
Grady Sizemore 
Carlos Quentin 

Starter 
Cliff Lee 

Relief 
Justin Duchscherer 
Felix Hernandez 
Roy Halladay 
Joe Saunders 
C.C. Sabathia 
Josh Beckett 
Matt Garza
Francisco Rodriguez 
Jonathan Papelbon 
George Sherrill 
Joakim Soria 

NL 

Starters 
C: Brian McCann 
1B: Lance Berkman 
2B: Chase Utley 
SS: Hanley Ramirez 
3B: Chipper Jones 
OF: Matt Holliday 
OF: Ryan Braun 
OF: Rick Ankiel 
DH: Albert Pujols 

Bench 
Dan Uggla 
Cristian Guzman 
Derek Lee 
Adrian Gonazalez
David Wright 
Russell Martin 
Nate McLouth 
Adam Dunn 
Pat Burrell 
Yadier Molina
Carlos Lee

Starter 
Edinson Volquez 

Relief 
Tim Lincecum 
Ben Sheets 
Dan Haren 
Johan Santana 
Brandon Webb 
Jake Peavy 
Tim Hudson 
Cole Hamels 
Brad Lidge 
Billy Wagner 
Brandon Lyon [3 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinalsarethebest</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:05:43 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>CCH League @ CSFBL.com</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428133#428133</link>
	 <description>Wow! Aces CF Timothy Footman goes 4-for-5 with a homer and 8 RBI in a 19-5 win against Boonestrail. He only had 3 RBI coming into the game. [4310 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Rolen27fan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:25:12 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Brett Wallace - #1 Draft Pick</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428121#428121</link>
	 <description>I heard on 1380 this morning that he made his pro debut last night and wen 0-2 with two walks. [2 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>jamminjman</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:45:19 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Mets @ Cardinals, 7/2/2008</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428115#428115</link>
	 <description>What a crazy game. Back and forth. This team showed a lot of heart and fight in them. 

That's 2 nights in a row we jump on them early (which has been a pattern all year) only to give it up later. I was also surprised to see Mulder in the game at that time. Dunc's HR was no doubt the game changing moment, but Glaus was the hero.

Those 4 HRs matched a season high, it was the 3rd time we had a walkoff homer, it was our 19th comeback win and we're now 18-14 in 1-run games. [44 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>CajunCardinal</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:20:14 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Looking for 3 Tickets for 7/3 vs. Mets</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428113#428113</link>
	 <description>As above. Send me a PM or email if you've got 3 to spare. Not looking to spend more than $30 per ticket if possible. [0 total replies]</description>
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	 <description>Thanks, BrewCards [15 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
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	 <description>[quote:4c12323792="undorgre"]Will never happen.  Ever.

I'm a bit surprised at the number of people that seem to be willing to give up the players that Cardinals management cherish the most for a guy (Holliday) that would most likely never play an inning with the Cardinals after the 2009 season.

There are some potential trades that I'm sure I'd make but I wouldn't want to package 3 or 4 of our best prospects.  I'm looking at risk versus reward... the addition of Holliday by no means guarantees success over the next 1.5 seasons... and to trade away the next 5 to 6 years worth of prospective talent could take it's toll in the coming seasons.[/quote:4c12323792]

THANK YOU!

People are caught up in pennant fever and loosing sight of the long term plan this team is on right now. We were supposed to be crap this year. Bottom of the division bad. Instead we've got the 2nd best record in the league. We've gotten to this point because of how great our young guns have been and how solid our farm system has become. I would be disgusted if Mo mortgaged the farm for a playoff push this year, when we're already poised to be great in 09. I don't want to jeopardize the long term potential of this club in a knee-jerk reaction to shore up our weaknesses in the short term. Holliday is good, but he's on the brink of demanding a huge financial investment and to be honest i'm a little leery of any slugger from Colorado. His home/road splits this season are good, but i'm a little sketchy on how those would hold up over the next 5-8 seasons moving from Coors to a pitchers park in Busch.

DON'T TRADE MO! [20 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Edmonds_Owns_CF</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:26:23 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428057#428057</link>
	 <description>This has been great having them up early. I was out of town last week without  my computer and I didn't miss a YNOT. Thanks! [228 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>jsup37</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:33:50 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428029#428029</link>
	 <description>[quote:cf6ed74a8b="reidikus"]#3.  Not bad, a lot better than last year!  I Can't beleive I have been in this leauge 5 times already.   :shock:[/quote:cf6ed74a8b]

Yeah, but #3's a pretty tough spot to draft this year. Adrian Peterson and Tomlinson will go #1/2 (or #2/1), and so you'll be left with a QB or a RB with issues.

Also, I'd be interested in trading down if anyone wants to move up. For example, if Illini and I traded places, he would get the #5 pick and my second round pick (#20). I would get his first round pick, #7, and his second rounder, 15. [33 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:08:01 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428024#428024</link>
	 <description>Props to Mozeliak, TLR, and the Cardinals coaching staff for making this season successful so far when everyone thought it would be a disaster.

TLR truly is one of the best minds in baseball... [1 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:55:35 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428019#428019</link>
	 <description>Four players in the Futures Game... nice!

I'm really liking the direction the Cardinals are headed. Keep up the good work, Mo! [3 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>no_1cardinalfan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:35:22 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Carpenter Has Setback But Cleared</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427997#427997</link>
	 <description>[quote:1ca573d17f="wheresmyurinal"]Thread after thread about Carpenter and Mulder.  Did any of you really think that either of the two would ever pitch again?  Even if they had come back, did you really think they would be the same quality as before?  If you were one of those, then much like the Cardinals ownership and management, you had your heads in the sand.  I've never seen a ballclub try to stick with injured players as much as the Cardinals have done.  I've never seen another team sign so many pitchers that are trying to recover from surgery or injury.  Maybe we can convert a couple more relievers to starters and vice versa.  It's really quite sad.  The Cardinals have had a tradition of good pitching and defense.  Now look at the mess we have.  Unbelievable![/quote:1ca573d17f]

 wmu, just fyi: 

 Mulder &amp; Carp are under contract, why would we NOT stick with them since we're payin' 'em?

 Give us the rotation you think we should have, when we shoulda signed 'em &amp; for how much. [51 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
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	 <title>Find a Cool Cardinal Item? Post it Here.</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427962#427962</link>
	 <description>For that kinda money you can get that great lookin' Black Leather Bomber Jacket with the Cards logos. Seen it on EBay many times as low as $199 Buy It Now. A gorgeous jacket that would last forever. [157 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:10:55 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <description>[b:21966f8830][size=18:21966f8830]Rays put closer Percival on DL with injured hamstring[/size:21966f8830][/b:21966f8830]

[quote:21966f8830="The Associated Press"]ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. -- The Tampa Bay Rays placed closer Troy Percival on the 15-day disabled list with a strained left hamstring after beating the Boston Red Sox 3-1 on Tuesday night.

It is the second time Percival has gone on the DL this season due to a left hamstring injury. He missed 13 games from May 29-June 12 after getting hurt while pitching against the Texas Rangers on May 28.[/quote:21966f8830]
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3470150]Full Article[/url] [123 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>undorgre</dc:creator>
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	 <description>[b:c7111b2557]CRAIG HOMERS TWICE IN LOSS[/b:c7111b2557]

The Midland RockHounds avoided a three-game sweep, scoring twice in the ninth and once in the tenth for an 8-7 victory over the Springfield Cardinals on Tuesday night at Hammons Field. 

Jon Zeringue’s two-run homer tied the game in the ninth and Javier Herrera’s bases-loaded infield single drove home the eventual game-winner in the tenth. 

Springfield broke a 5-5 tie in the seventh, as Allen Craig drew a bases-loaded walk, forcing home Jim Rapoport to make it 6-5.

The Cards added to their lead in the eighth, as Matt Pagnozzi’s suicide squeeze bunt was mishandled by Midland catcher Anthony Recker, allowing Isa Garcia to score to give the Cards a 7-5 lead.

Luke Gregerson came out of the Springfield bullpen to hold the lead in the ninth, but hit Recker with the first pitch of the inning.  After Recker was forced at second base on a ground ball by Herrera, Zeringue belted his 13th homer of the year to the left of the batter’s eye in center field, a two-run shot to tie the game at 7-7.

Gregerson (4-5) allowed a one-out walk to Justin Sellers and then a double to Aaron Cunningham, putting runners at second and third with only one out.  After an intentional walk to Tommy Everidge, Josh Dew was brought out of the Springfield pen.  Dew fanned Recker on three pitches, but allowed an infield single to Herrera, which brought home Sellers from third, putting the Hounds in front for good at 8-7. 

Midland closer Andrew Carignan (3-2), who worked 2 2/3 scoreless innings on the night, put the Cards down in order in the tenth for the win. 

Springfield and Midland traded early offensive blows.  Allen Craig and Aaron Cunningham both hit two home runs each.  For Craig, the two-homer game is his second of the year, giving him 13 on the season.  Cunningham’s multi-homer effort was his first of the year, giving him seven on the year. 

The Cardinals (6-5) are still in a first-place tie with the Tulsa Drillers, atop the North Division’s Second Half Standings.  Springfield will take a day off on Wednesday, then head to Frisco to open a six-game road trip, opening up on Thursday night.  No starting pitchers have been named for Thursday’s series-opener in Frisco.  The Redbirds return to Hammons Field on Thursday, July 10th, to take on the Northwest Arkansas Naturals.  1,500 fans on Thursday, July 10th, receive a free poster of Louie the Mascot, thanks to our friends at the Longhorn Grill.  Tickets are available... [143 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinal70</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:57:29 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427932#427932</link>
	 <description>Tough night, lackluster loss. After Ank's 1st inning HR little more momentum than this Game Thread. :( [13 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:10:12 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Manny Shoves Red Sox Official.</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427930#427930</link>
	 <description>[quote:7c4063db0e="Steve"]Manny being Manny.

Can't believe I'm the first one to post that.
qft.[/quote:7c4063db0e]

Lol you just beat me to it! [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Redbird4Ever</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:25:26 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <description>I can't remember how many players are on the All-Star rosters so I went with 28.  I think it's more than that though, 30 or 32.

[b:25fe9b10c0]AL[/b:25fe9b10c0]

[u:25fe9b10c0]Starters[/u:25fe9b10c0]
C: Joe Mauer
1B: Kevin Youkilis
2B: Ian Kinsler 
SS: Michael Young
3B: Alex Rodriguez 
OF: Josh Hamilton
OF: Manny Ramirez
OF: Ichiro Suzuki 
DH: Jim Thome 

[u:25fe9b10c0]Bench[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Justin Morneau
Evan Longoria 
Placido Polanco
Derek Jeter
A.J. Pierzynski 
J.D. Drew 
Grady Sizemore
Carlos Quentin   

[u:25fe9b10c0]Starter[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Cliff Lee 

[u:25fe9b10c0]Relief[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Justin Duchscherer 
Felix Hernandez 
Roy Halladay 
Joe Saunders 
C.C. Sabathia 
Josh Beckett
Francisco Rodriguez
Jonathan Papelbon
George Sherrill 
Joakim Soria 

[b:25fe9b10c0]NL[/b:25fe9b10c0]

[u:25fe9b10c0]Starters[/u:25fe9b10c0]
C: Brian McCann 
1B: Lance Berkman
2B: Chase Utley
SS: Hanley Ramirez
3B: Chipper Jones
OF: Matt Holliday
OF: Ryan Braun
OF: Rick Ankiel 
DH: Albert Pujols

[u:25fe9b10c0]Bench[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Dan Uggla 
Cristian Guzman 
Derek Lee
David Wright
Russell Martin 
Nate McLouth 
Adam Dunn
Pat Burrell

[u:25fe9b10c0]Starter[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Edinson Volquez
 
[u:25fe9b10c0]Relief[/u:25fe9b10c0]
Tim Lincecum
Ben Sheets 
Dan Haren
Johan Santana
Brandon Webb 
Jake Peavy
Tim Hudson
Brad Lidge 
Billy Wagner
Brandon Lyon [6 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Cardinalsarethebest</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:56:28 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427921#427921</link>
	 <description>They just played a commercial for the All-Star game that featured, among others, perennial all-stars like Pujols, Rodriguez, and Jeter.  Also featured, Rick Ankiel.  Obviously, that doesn't mean a thing, I just thought it was interesting to see him in that company.  I'd love to see him make the team. [20 total replies]</description>
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	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:15:05 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427910#427910</link>
	 <description>[quote:b720b998c9="Steve"]I hope Zito goes 8-8 this year and 4-14 next season.
Put an end to these ridiculous contracts.[/quote:b720b998c9]

That's me from December of 2006, and I am on pace so far for his 2008 year. He'll probably lose a few more than 14 I think now though. I kinda feel like that announcer for the Cubs last night who stated very early in the game that he was hoping someone would step up in Ramirez and Soriano's absense and hit 2 HR's and get 6 RBI's (which DeRosa eventually did get). 

As much as I hated the contract and wished this upon him, I wanted him to find it last night, but he is just awful. They were commenting how well he pitches in August and September, and I was thinking "well, alot of good that does when the Giants are out of the race before the All Star break due to him losing 10 or more games up to that point. And 0-7 at home??? How much motivation is that to get you excited about going to the ballpark when he is pitching? And when it's cold in July also that is a double whammy by the bay. 

"Grab your coat and let's go see Zito get knocked around". 
I wonder if they bet on when inning he will be taken out, or how many pitches he will throw? [32 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:30:52 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <title>Tonight! July 1, 2008 -- Section 359 -- $6 total!</title>
	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427904#427904</link>
	 <description>wish I could of helped YawkeyWay [1 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>cardinalfan4life</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:45:02 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427893#427893</link>
	 <description>Maybe we could try just posting the month's stats without the Poll feature &amp; the Posters could roll the vote totals forward like we do in the Player of the Game Thread? Either way thanks for doin' these all year STLP5. 

 Miles-1

 (Although Lohse probably deserving) [9 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>chevyman58</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:48:06 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427885#427885</link>
	 <description>[url=http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20080701&amp;content_id=3041395&amp;vkey=pr_stl&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=stl] Wallace Signs[/url] [73 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>BigSTLCardsFan</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:22:40 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427854#427854</link>
	 <description>Yeah me too.. didnt remember him.. I guess because he's 20 and just really maybe doin somethin finally.. [21 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Bizzy15</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:50:15 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427850#427850</link>
	 <description>[quote:83f0e608c4="no_1cardinalfan"]If we can keep playing above .500 ball each month for the rest of the season, we'll make the playoffs.[/quote:83f0e608c4]

Totally agree with that.. this month had some nice surprises.. Jason LaRue, Aaron Miles, and Skip Schumaker.. others on offense didnt do so hot Ankiel (granted he would get XBH) and Ludwick.. Molina takes the collision.. the bullpen blowing a lot of these losses.. Looper and Lohse pitching great.. Springer has been doin awesome lately.. Izzy coming back to Mulder coming back last night.. [2 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Bizzy15</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:43:02 -0400</pubDate>
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	 <link>http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427841#427841</link>
	 <description>[quote:73166edf04="STLPujols5"]woot ludwick cracked the top 15!!! 

anyways there's still a month left to play, if Pujols has a strong June and Berkman's hot streak doesn't kick back on. we can get AP as a starter.[/quote:73166edf04]
I frankly think the fans made good choices despite ballot stuffing from certain areas. [52 total replies]</description>
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	 <dc:creator>Optimum</dc:creator>
	 <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:05:55 -0400</pubDate>
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