http://www.CardsClubhouse.com CardsClubhouse.com: The Ultimate Community for the Best Fans in Baseball en-us Copyright 2005, CardsClubhouse.com roark1138@CardsClubhouse.com http://www.cardsclubhouse.com/img/cch_icon_16x16.gif http://www.cardsclubhouse.com 16 16 CardsClubhouse.com: The Ultimate Community for the Best Fans in Baseball http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428263#428263 This is a VERY important series. IMHO, the Cubs are the class of the NL. Yes, it pains me to say that. So this series will help show where the Cards really rank against the best competition available in the NL. The nice thing is, the Cubs really struggle on the road, so that should give us an advantage. If we can start this series off on a good note tonight, I like our matchups the rest of the weekend. Come on Cardinals, start our holiday weekend off in style!! Oh, and Albert, we know you were pressing on purpose against the Mets just so you could hit #300 against the Cubs. So let's get it out of the way early tonight. :wink: [7 total replies] spydr31 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:01:21 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428260#428260 First at Bat give him a Standing O after that Booo him [227 total replies] jwisham Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:40:58 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428259#428259 A couple of days ago I won these three Mark McGwire pins (for all the McGwire haters on this forum :lol:) and bought this History Of Oakland Raiders DVD set. [img:6f705c359d]http://i12.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/f9/1d/da00_2.JPG[/img:6f705c359d] [img:6f705c359d]http://i2.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/f9/1d/de8d_2.JPG[/img:6f705c359d] [img:6f705c359d]http://i12.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/f9/1d/df50_2.JPG[/img:6f705c359d] [img:6f705c359d]http://nfl.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p3082913t130.jpg[/img:6f705c359d] [151 total replies] MissouriRedbird Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:00:30 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428258#428258 i was working as a aide at a local high school but they let me go so i have a job interview at startek wensday [9 total replies] jwisham Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:38:38 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428257#428257 id love to have Burnett :lol: [7 total replies] jwisham Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:36:43 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428256#428256 Ditto. Too bad its raining here in Arkansas, so its gonna be tough to grill burgers and shoot fireworks like customary. [1 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:22:37 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428255#428255 Wow... that's not good for the NL Central if the Brewers indeed acquire Sabathia. They're crazy if they give up both LaPorta and Escobar, though. [1 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:20:06 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428254#428254 [quote:f2f57fcfa7="MediasBlancas"]That "L" flag was flying a lot at U.S. Cellular Field this past weekend when the White Sox swept the Cubs on the South Side.[/quote:f2f57fcfa7] maybe we can borrow their design and include the "Cubs Baseball - 100 years of losing...the tradition lives on!" phrase on the bottom [9 total replies] cardinalfan4life Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:10:47 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428251#428251 There is one reason Mac and the others didn't just 'fess up that I don't think has been considered. What if he or even others that were given a legal immunity and just needed to confess were being pressured by MLB players, management, ownership or the commisioners office to not come clean? What if it were to come out that ownership was just turning a blind-eye to the whole thing? The threat of a life-time ban from baseball could be a very strong influence. [28 total replies] CardinalJayhawk Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:55:02 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428249#428249 [quote:df3abffb59="CardinalJayhawk"]Basically both Rose and Jackson were banned for associating with gamblers. So why are major league teams allowed to take advertising money from casinos?[/quote:df3abffb59] Your argument is pretty easy to deflate (if you were serious), but I'll not do it because the premise is not at all correct. Neither Rose nor Jackson were banned for associating with gamblers. [17 total replies] atomdrums Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:11:40 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428242#428242 [quote:2214c61b6b="chevyman58"] LNGHRNS or GOHORNS or GOTEXAS or even BEVOROX or finally IHOOKEM[/quote:2214c61b6b] Well, considering I pretty much loathe the Longhorns, I doubt that will happen! I applied for CARDSTL, REDBIRD, and MUSIAL6. It will be a few weeks before I know if any of those three are available. I'll let you all know! [16 total replies] atomdrums Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:16:34 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428236#428236 That's a really touching story. As much as I tire of hearing Albert's name, there's no denying that he has a big heart. [9 total replies] duncstein Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:06:13 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428235#428235 [quote:b776eb9316="undorgre"]Has anyone ever seen Brian Regan perform? I've seen him the last 2 years down at The Pageant in St. Louis. He's a clean comedian (doesn't curse) which is not usually what I go for but they guy is hilarious.[/quote:b776eb9316] I saw his 30-minute comedy central show a while back, and can only really remember one or two lines from it, but remember being very amused. [15 total replies] theocbirdfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:44:19 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428234#428234 My TV is going to be in serious danger of me throwing things at it if this story keeps up much longer. It's enough to make a guy stop watching ESPN. [34 total replies] theocbirdfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:41:55 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428233#428233 [quote:0746374e20]yawkey i'd be more than happy to take it, I'd like to take you on and show you what I made of and draft fresh, I know i'm better now than when we orignally drafted back when I was 18.[/quote:0746374e20]So I guess with age comes the wisdom to not draft Pat Burrel with the number one pick? [quote:0746374e20]CFIA if its not you i'm hurting than who is it i'm giving the biggiest beatdown of the week to?[/quote:0746374e20]I don't know. I guess the guy whose team sucks almost as bad yours. [quote:0746374e20]reseel when all my pieces are togather I belive I can contend.[/quote:0746374e20]Yes, once Konerko gets off that DL, the sky is the limit. [quote:0746374e20]i'll say it agian I might move to another league in 09.[/quote:0746374e20]You do that, and I will leak this over to the "white sox forums". No more moderatin' for you. You will have no credibility over there. Tim Donaughy will ref in the NBA before you get the chance to ever ban some troll over there again. God bless, and happy Independence Day! [524 total replies] CardsFanInArk Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:26:27 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428230#428230 The Freak on the cover of SI -2 Villone - 1 [688 total replies] CajunCardinal Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:13:24 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428229#428229 Option Boggs. The Mitchell experiment was a failure. He wasn't even really good on last week's road trip. He made me so angry tonight, I almost kidney punched the poor woman sitting next to me in the stadium. Luckily my tickets were free tonight. :? [26 total replies] Cardinal_Beams Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:06:43 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428224#428224 I do not know if this is the right forum to post this, and I do not know if someone posted this already (a search effort on this yielded no specifically discernable results). Yet, Joe Buck talked to ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd this past Wednesday and, well, admits that he is not really into sports (especially baseball) anymore. http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/07/joe-buck-admits-he-rarely-watches.html Disagree with me if you want, but I find this distrubing. [0 total replies] MediasBlancas Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:38:06 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428223#428223 June was a wonderful month for amatuer astronomers. For those not in the midwest anyway. There was one night of clear skies here. Did anyone have better luck? [137 total replies] CardinalJayhawk Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:35:18 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428221#428221 Obviously you can't read or didn't read the previous posts. None of the catchers has thrown the mask. No one has been removed for not performing. No kid on my team has [b:0e68a25c3a]ever[/b:0e68a25c3a] been yelled at by me or one of my coaches or been removed for failing to make a play. It's a question of safety. The parent had been asked not to do what they were doing, quietly away from the kids. It wasn't a matter between the parent and the coach because I would have looked fairly stupid running between the dugout and behind the bleacher to whisper that, since I am both the catchers parent and his coach. The catcher has worn this gear for 7 seasons so guess what? Not removing it is what's natural. No one ever said anything about any incoherent communication or lack of give and take. I asked for data about safety not strategy. Neither did I ask for a critique on my 15 years as a coach and a teacher. I do both for the kids, not the parents. They are my focus. Kids with good attitudes that are trying their best will always have a place on my team and always have. I also didn't ask for anyone to openly take a crack at me personally. Particularly from someone that just looks for worthless arguments and knows nothing of me. Yes, it is my team. I make not one dime while finding donations for kids whose parents don't have the money for their fees and uniforms. At the beginning of each season I put it in writing that I don't know everything and there are other ways to do things, Just come to me and discuss them. This parent didn't like the way I decided to do it after meeting with the catchers parents. [b:0e68a25c3a]All[/b:0e68a25c3a] the parents of the other catchers agreed with me as it turned out. This parent didn't like it because it wasn't his way. I asked for information which others respectfully gave. All urinalboy did was try to be insulting, exactly like the parent in question. [10 total replies] CardinalJayhawk Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:23:14 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428214#428214 [quote:1f1e24b7b4="CardsFanInArk"][quote:1f1e24b7b4="wheresmyurinal"]It is amazing how detailed they are with MLB player injuries. The guy sprained his finger!! That's it. If any of us had gone to a hospital with a sprained finger, they'd laugh us back to our cars. Wrap it up and suck up the pain you panzy. Yet these guys have MRI's of fingers to verify the obvious. Quite funny the human condition is....[/quote:1f1e24b7b4]Wainwright is a pitcher. He gets paid to throw a ball. It is necessary to be able to grip a ball to throw a ball. If you would have sprained a finger you would be forced to lay off the Dungeons and Dragons and be unable to post on this board as much. Therefore, that is not a big deal.[/quote:1f1e24b7b4] :lol: :lol: :lol: Somebody mark this as a nomination for post of the year. [9 total replies] CardinalJayhawk Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:25:23 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428209#428209 [color=darkred:4430c4c0e0]That was an [i:4430c4c0e0]amazing[/i:4430c4c0e0] 9th to be watching. Great comeback, hoping that's what turns them around. With Byrnes possibly being out the remainder of the season, they'll need someone to step up & be their energy. I pick Orlando Hudson ;)[/color:4430c4c0e0] [8 total replies] BRM_229 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:00:19 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428207#428207 [quote:d97dabead5="CajunCardinal"]Now 6-12 in last 18 road games and 2-8 in the last 10. [img:d97dabead5]http://www.flagpro.com/store/media/L_flag.gif[/img:d97dabead5][/quote:d97dabead5] Very nice. [176 total replies] chevyman58 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:50:47 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428204#428204 [quote:265cd4121e="joethejedi"]Diners, Dives and Drive-ins baby. That's a groovy show.[/quote:265cd4121e] I actually ate at a place tonight that I leaned about on Diners, Dives and Drive-Ins. St. Louis, just off of I-55 in South County, there's a place called The Iron Barley, and it was some of the best food I've ever had. My girlfriend and I shared this appetizer thing called Pinella--it was a Mexican-style mozzarella cheese [b:265cd4121e]grilled[/b:265cd4121e] (it looked like a chicken breast with the grill marks, unreal) and served with a pico-type salsa, and it was laying on an iron skillet in an apple-pineapple glaze. Then I had a huge prime rib sandwich with mashed potatoes and she had some chicken special served with some of the Pinella cheese over barley. That, plus drinks, was about $40, which was a lot less than what I would have paid for that. Highly recommended. [27 total replies] YawkeyWay Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:33:11 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428198#428198 Beach Boys - Pet Sounds Radiohead - OK Computer Those two are always in the top two, aside from that I mix it up a lot. Lately I've been listening to Girl Talk, My Morning Jacket, Black Mountain, and lots of Black Keys. This thread is great, I may post some more after I revisit my iTunes (nothing else to do down nine runs). [18 total replies] CardsFanInATL Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:57:52 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428174#428174 [b:16970269f5][size=18:16970269f5]SuperSonics, Seattle reach last-minute settlement in lease dispute [/size:16970269f5] SI.com[/b:16970269f5] SEATTLE (AP) -- Clay Bennett finally found a dollar amount that would sever his contentious relationship with the city of Seattle -- $75 million. As a result, the SuperSonics are headed to Oklahoma City with Bennett leading the way, leaving behind the team name, colors and 41 years of history. [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/07/02/supersonics.seattle.ap/index.html]Full Story[/url] The lawsuit from Howard Schultz (see article above) is still pending but I don't think it has much of a chance. Looks like the Sonics are gone. [10 total replies] Cardinalsarethebest Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:31:41 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428171#428171 [quote:f11d860b7b="chevyman58"]I hope nobody falls down & hurts themselves backpedaling, we've had enough injuries. :roll:[/quote:f11d860b7b] Go back and read my first post. Does it really sound like I'm serious? Did the wink at the end not give away my sarcasm enough for you? I mean, geez, I'm not Obama here. [52 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:15:15 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428170#428170 Wow, I completly forgot about that game!! I loved the 2 on 2 action, that was pretty cool!! [5 total replies] Cardsnation Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:09:11 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428162#428162 [quote:83e308b87d="MadHungo"]Lol No_1, I'd forgotten that BC & I even made this trade :lol: Who'd I get in return btw? :shock:[/quote:83e308b87d] Brandon Lyon, I think. Ryan Franklin, Joe Rauch (Chad Cordero's replacement as Nationals closer), Mike Gonzalez (Braves closer), and Damaso Marte (Matt Capps replacement) are all on the trading block. SP in return, if possible. [309 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:00:31 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428161#428161 Wow, thanks for the info Yawkey! That'll be very helpful. [9 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:44:23 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428147#428147 Lance LYNN the second pick for the cardinals in this years draft is really pitching well.. 0.00 era 6.2 IP 5 K's opponets batting .130 3 games ***he will eventually start but is getting back into the scheme of things... Looks to be soon as he went 3 innings in his last relief appearance [14 total replies] stlandnyr Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:11:51 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428143#428143 It fits the mold of the Cardinals management to pick him up. After all, he is on the DL. [2 total replies] wheresmyurinal Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:57:35 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428142#428142 [b:de598e9b0c]Memphis rallies by Nashville[/b:de598e9b0c] [i:de598e9b0c]Seventh inning rally leads ‘Birds past Sounds [/i:de598e9b0c] Memphis, Tenn. – Memphis used a seventh inning rally to beat Nashville 3-2 Wednesday night at AutoZone Park. The Redbirds trailed 2-1 entering the bottom of the seventh. Jarrett Hoffpauir led off with a double and scored on Rico Washington’s single to center field to tie the game. After a Brian Barden single put runners on first and second Joe Mather came through with a single to left to score Washington. The bullpen took it from there with Mark Worrell and Kelvin Jimenez each tossing one scoreless inning apiece. Jimenez picked up his team-best sixth save. Nick Stavinoha, David Freese and Bryan Anderson all had two hits to lead the ‘Birds. Ben Howard took the loss in relief for Nashville giving up two runs on four hits in 1.1 innings. Starter Mark DiFelice pitched five innings and allowed one run on three hits. Seven Memphis pitchers combined to scatter four Nashville hits and fan eight. Anthony Reyes started the game for the Redbirds on a major league rehab assignment and gave up one run on one hit in 2.1 innings. The right-hander threw 47 pitches, 27 strikes. Ron Flores earned the win with one inning of spotless relief. Memphis wraps up their homestand and four-game series tomorrow night against Nashville. Clayton Mortensen gets the ball for the ‘Birds and will face left-hander Lindsay Gulin. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05 p.m. with a fireworks show scheduled following the game. [117 total replies] Cardinal70 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:45:39 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428141#428141 [b:6b0b490faf]BANDITS BATTLE WEATHER, LOSE THIRD STRAIGHT[/b:6b0b490faf] [i:6b0b490faf]Wallace makes pro debut at Modern Woodmen Park[/i:6b0b490faf] Cardinals’ first-rounder Brett Wallace made his professional debut on Wednesday night at Modern Woodmen Park, but the 13th overall pick in the 2008 draft could not save the Quad Cities River Bandits, who sat through a 1 hour and 22 minute rain delay before dropping their third straight game in a 9-3 loss to the Cedar Rapids Kernels. Wallace went 0-for-2 with two walks in his first game as a pro, while Quad Cities (6-8, 39-39) managed just one hit and watched their overall record fall back to the .500 mark. Cedar Rapids (10-4, 42-40) carried a combined no-hitter into the eighth inning, when Pete Kozma sliced a base hit to right field for the Bandits’ only knock of the game. Four Kernels pitchers combined on the one-hitter, though they also issued six walks, hit two batters, and allowed three runs, two of which were earned. Robert Fish got it started with one hitless inning, walking three and allowing all of the runs before the rain delay prematurely ended his night. Sammy Leon (2-1) took the mound after the delay and twirled four hitless frames out of the bullpen to earn the win. Ysmael Carmona then worked two hitless innings to take the no-no through seven frames, before Kozma’s single off Tom Kiely led off the eighth and finally got Quad Cities into the “hits” column. Meanwhile, the Kernels hopped out to an early lead in the top of the second inning. Jay Brossman led off the frame with a solo homer to left and Cedar Rapids followed with three consecutive singles that loaded the bases. Two more runs crossed the plate on consecutive groundouts before Ryan Groth dropped a flare single into right, driving home another run on to stretch the Kernels’ lead to 4-0. The rain began to fall as Quad Cities came to the plate in the bottom of the second. Nick Peoples was hit by a pitch to open the inning and back-to-back walks to Tommy Pham and Paul Vazquez loaded the bases with nobody out. But as the downpour worsened, the game was put into a rain delay before Ross Oeder could step to the plate. The stoppage in play lasted nearly an hour and a half before the River Bandits resumed their rally. Oeder hit a bouncing ball towards third that Jerry Gonzalez picked up cleanly, but his throw to second base sailed into right field and allowed two runs to score. With men at the corners D’Marcus Ingram sent... [130 total replies] Cardinal70 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:44:38 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428136#428136 AL Starters C: Joe Mauer 1B: Kevin Youkilis 2B: Ian Kinsler SS: Michael Young 3B: Alex Rodriguez OF: Josh Hamilton OF: Manny Ramirez OF: Ichiro Suzuki DH: Jim Thome Bench Justin Morneau Evan Longoria Placido Polanco Derek Jeter A.J. Pierzynski Ivan Rodriguez Milton Bradley Magglio Ordonez J.D. Drew Grady Sizemore Carlos Quentin Starter Cliff Lee Relief Justin Duchscherer Felix Hernandez Roy Halladay Joe Saunders C.C. Sabathia Josh Beckett Matt Garza Francisco Rodriguez Jonathan Papelbon George Sherrill Joakim Soria NL Starters C: Brian McCann 1B: Lance Berkman 2B: Chase Utley SS: Hanley Ramirez 3B: Chipper Jones OF: Matt Holliday OF: Ryan Braun OF: Rick Ankiel DH: Albert Pujols Bench Dan Uggla Cristian Guzman Derek Lee Adrian Gonazalez David Wright Russell Martin Nate McLouth Adam Dunn Pat Burrell Yadier Molina Carlos Lee Starter Edinson Volquez Relief Tim Lincecum Ben Sheets Dan Haren Johan Santana Brandon Webb Jake Peavy Tim Hudson Cole Hamels Brad Lidge Billy Wagner Brandon Lyon [3 total replies] Cardinalsarethebest Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:05:43 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428133#428133 Wow! Aces CF Timothy Footman goes 4-for-5 with a homer and 8 RBI in a 19-5 win against Boonestrail. He only had 3 RBI coming into the game. [4310 total replies] Rolen27fan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:25:12 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428125#428125 Hey Guy what's up!! Thanks for the well wishes!! Got back at about 10:00 last night!! And had a nice long sleep today!! I'll try to put the pics up on my Facebook and post the link on here!! Definetly fun!! I saw the town where part of my Family came from!! (Bordeaux) I climbed (well, rode the elevator to) the top of the Eifel Tower!! Had some of the best Ice Cream and Pasteries I've ever had and climbed the tallest Sand-dune in Europe!! (Didn't even take the stairs actually climbed it!!) [6 total replies] Cardsnation Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:10:12 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428121#428121 I heard on 1380 this morning that he made his pro debut last night and wen 0-2 with two walks. [2 total replies] jamminjman Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:45:19 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428115#428115 What a crazy game. Back and forth. This team showed a lot of heart and fight in them. That's 2 nights in a row we jump on them early (which has been a pattern all year) only to give it up later. I was also surprised to see Mulder in the game at that time. Dunc's HR was no doubt the game changing moment, but Glaus was the hero. Those 4 HRs matched a season high, it was the 3rd time we had a walkoff homer, it was our 19th comeback win and we're now 18-14 in 1-run games. [44 total replies] CajunCardinal Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:20:14 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428113#428113 As above. Send me a PM or email if you've got 3 to spare. Not looking to spend more than $30 per ticket if possible. [0 total replies] dartagnan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:54:46 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428104#428104 Thanks, BrewCards [15 total replies] chevyman58 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:11:01 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428087#428087 [quote:4c12323792="undorgre"]Will never happen. Ever. I'm a bit surprised at the number of people that seem to be willing to give up the players that Cardinals management cherish the most for a guy (Holliday) that would most likely never play an inning with the Cardinals after the 2009 season. There are some potential trades that I'm sure I'd make but I wouldn't want to package 3 or 4 of our best prospects. I'm looking at risk versus reward... the addition of Holliday by no means guarantees success over the next 1.5 seasons... and to trade away the next 5 to 6 years worth of prospective talent could take it's toll in the coming seasons.[/quote:4c12323792] THANK YOU! People are caught up in pennant fever and loosing sight of the long term plan this team is on right now. We were supposed to be crap this year. Bottom of the division bad. Instead we've got the 2nd best record in the league. We've gotten to this point because of how great our young guns have been and how solid our farm system has become. I would be disgusted if Mo mortgaged the farm for a playoff push this year, when we're already poised to be great in 09. I don't want to jeopardize the long term potential of this club in a knee-jerk reaction to shore up our weaknesses in the short term. Holliday is good, but he's on the brink of demanding a huge financial investment and to be honest i'm a little leery of any slugger from Colorado. His home/road splits this season are good, but i'm a little sketchy on how those would hold up over the next 5-8 seasons moving from Coors to a pitchers park in Busch. DON'T TRADE MO! [20 total replies] Edmonds_Owns_CF Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:26:23 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428085#428085 Mosh [1267 total replies] STLPujols5 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:58:03 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428057#428057 This has been great having them up early. I was out of town last week without my computer and I didn't miss a YNOT. Thanks! [228 total replies] jsup37 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:33:50 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428029#428029 [quote:cf6ed74a8b="reidikus"]#3. Not bad, a lot better than last year! I Can't beleive I have been in this leauge 5 times already. :shock:[/quote:cf6ed74a8b] Yeah, but #3's a pretty tough spot to draft this year. Adrian Peterson and Tomlinson will go #1/2 (or #2/1), and so you'll be left with a QB or a RB with issues. Also, I'd be interested in trading down if anyone wants to move up. For example, if Illini and I traded places, he would get the #5 pick and my second round pick (#20). I would get his first round pick, #7, and his second rounder, 15. [33 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:08:01 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428024#428024 Props to Mozeliak, TLR, and the Cardinals coaching staff for making this season successful so far when everyone thought it would be a disaster. TLR truly is one of the best minds in baseball... [1 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:55:35 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428019#428019 Four players in the Futures Game... nice! I'm really liking the direction the Cardinals are headed. Keep up the good work, Mo! [3 total replies] no_1cardinalfan Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:35:22 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428013#428013 Seven Channel - Breathe [1753 total replies] reidikus Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:30:44 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428007#428007 Wow you people eat a lot of junk. :lol: My favorite meal combo would be a Buffalo Chicken Sandwich and a Coke. Favorte snack combo probably Sweet Chilli Doritos and a Coke. In fact just about anything and a Coke. [12 total replies] Bake_McBride Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:54:20 -0400 http://www.CardsClubhouse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=427997#427997 [quote:1ca573d17f="wheresmyurinal"]Thread after thread about Carpenter and Mulder. Did any of you really think that either of the two would ever pitch again? Even if they had come back, did you really think they would be the same quality as before? If you were one of those, then much like the Cardinals ownership and management, you had your heads in the sand. I've never seen a ballclub try to stick with injured players as much as the Cardinals have done. I've never seen another team sign so many pitchers that are trying to recover from surgery or injury. Maybe we can convert a couple more relievers to starters and vice versa. It's really quite sad. The Cardinals have had a tradition of good pitching and defense. Now look at the mess we have. Unbelievable![/quote:1ca573d17f] wmu, just fyi: Mulder & Carp are under contract, why would we NOT stick with them since we're payin' 'em? Give us the rotation you think we should have, when we shoulda signed 'em & for how much. [51 total replies] chevyman58 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:54:12 -0400