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PLauderdale30
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I recall reading somewhere that part of the reason Dunn's OBP and strikeout % are both high (which is usually not the case) is because the guy is not affraid to strike out looking/and or take ball 4. Anyone else ever see this? It makes sense if true.
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ozarkbird
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Rolen27fan wrote: |
Gotta check the numbers there. His career BA is .249, meaning a hit 24.9% of the time and he hits a home run 7.1% of the time. |
Incorrect. He gets a hit 24.9% of his ABs, but he doesn't get an AB 100% of the time he comes to the plate. That's why BA and slugging percentage can be misleading stats. Every batting stat should be calculated relative to plate appearances... when comparing hitters it gives a true indication of relative performance.
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Rolen27fan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Rolen27fan wrote: |
Gotta check the numbers there. His career BA is .249, meaning a hit 24.9% of the time and he hits a home run 7.1% of the time. |
Incorrect. He gets a hit 24.9% of his ABs, but he doesn't get an AB 100% of the time he comes to the plate. That's why BA and slugging percentage can be misleading stats. Every batting stat should be calculated relative to plate appearances... when comparing hitters it gives a true indication of relative performance. |
Okay, I see your point. BUT he still reaches base or provides a run in those times where he's not credited with the AB. So it's kinda a moot point. Getting on base is more important to me anyway.
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Edmonds_Owns_CF
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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With the Yankees wrapping things up tonight (   ) we're now officially into the hot stove league! We're looking at an interesting off season for the Cardinals folks.
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ozarkbird
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, he gets credit for a high walk rate. But if there are baserunners then singles have more value than walks, so that's why he's more of a tablesetter.
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Edmonds_Owns_CF
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Ok, not teachincally a rumor, but MLB Trade Rumors posted their 2010 Top 50 Free Agents. They project St. Louis to sign one, that's right, one of the top 50 FA's and it's not even a new signing. I don't see Joel Piniero being back.
For good measure, they predict Holliday winds up with the Mets, Bay w/the Red Sox and Figgins with the Angels.
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Cardinal_Beams
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Edmonds_Owns_CF wrote: |
Ok, not teachincally a rumor, but MLB Trade Rumors posted their 2010 Top 50 Free Agents. They project St. Louis to sign one, that's right, one of the top 50 FA's and it's not even a new signing. I don't see Joel Piniero being back.
For good measure, they predict Holliday winds up with the Mets, Bay w/the Red Sox and Figgins with the Angels. |
from what I've been gathering, looks like the Mets would be the heavy favorite to sign Matt. Second highest payroll in baseball, national league (which I think Matt would prefer), a competitive team when not devastated with injury...yeah, I'm hoping Matt enjoyed his tenure here so much he'll drop $$$ as his top priority and sign an extension... |
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PLauderdale30
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: |
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For good measure, they predict Holliday winds up with the Mets, Bay w/the Red Sox and Figgins with the Angels. |
Id like to see their predictions from before last winter. If I recall, they predicted Renteria and a few others to STL that never came close to landing. Their predicitions arent any better than most people around here could make.
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Edmonds_Owns_CF
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| PLauderdale30 wrote: |
| Edmonds_Owns_CF wrote: |
For good measure, they predict Holliday winds up with the Mets, Bay w/the Red Sox and Figgins with the Angels. |
Id like to see their predictions from before last winter. If I recall, they predicted Renteria and a few others to STL that never came close to landing. Their predicitions arent any better than most people around here could make. |
If I remember correctly, it was between St. Louis and San Fran for Renteria. The Giants offered him two years and more money though. Not saying I don't agree with you about MLBTR though. I'd love that guys job.
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Edmonds_Owns_CF
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Cardinals expect little to happen at GM meetings
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BY JOE STRAUSS
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
11/09/2009
CHICAGO — A year after doing business at an ostentatious resort perched on Southern California bluffs overlooking the Pacific Ocean, Major League Baseball is sticking with a minimalist theme for this week's annual meetings of general managers.
Club executives are scheduled to begin meeting this afternoon for parts of no more than three days at a hotel attached to O'Hare Airport. There will be no oceans, no golf courses and little expectation of a high-decibel takeoff to the offseason. |
More interesting tidbits from the article.
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| "I'd say the chances of us making anything happen there is very small," said Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak, a central mover during last November's weeklong meeting at Dana Point, Calif. "My expectation is that this will be much more about MLB business." |
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| If the Cardinals hope to retain Holliday for an average $17 million a season, they are likely to be disappointed. Boras is believed committed to finding a far more lucrative deal for Holliday than the eight-year, $136 million deal left fielder Alfonso Soriano accepted to sign with the Chicago Cubs in November 2006. |
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| The Cardinals are among the teams with interest in Boston Red Sox free agent left fielder Jason Bay, who is likely to command fewer years at a lower annual average salary than Holliday while also offering an option in the cleanup spot. Bay has averaged 31 home runs and 103 RBIs while taking 2,831 at-bats the last five seasons, compared to Holliday's average of 28 home runs and 107 RBIs in 2,837 at-bats in the same span. |
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| The availability of outfielder Xavier Nady after season-ending ligament replacement surgery offers a shorter-term solution. Nady, who turns 31 next week, is a career .308 hitter against lefthanded pitching and managed 97 RBIs in 2008 while splitting time between the Pittsburgh Pirates and the New York Yankees. |
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| The Cardinals publicly retain interest in bringing back free agent Mark DeRosa, but Mozeliak also has said he believes rookie David Freese should get first shot next spring training to win the opening day third base job. |
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Mozeliak is also examining the landscape for a starting pitcher to fill one of two vacancies created by free agents Joel Piñeiro and John Smoltz. Mozeliak has indicated the club will promote an organizational pitcher such as lefthander Jaime Garcia, Mitch Boggs or Blake Hawksworth to cover one spot in the rotation while seeking a short-term veteran solution for the other.
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This is a good overview by Strauss of the overall market St. Louis will be dealing with this offseason. Not really reporting anything groundbreaking, but the Cardinals certainly have options, regardless of Holliday.
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CrashDavis16
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Strauss has been mentioning Figgins, Bay, Dye & Austin Kearns as players the Cards would go after if Holliday bolts.
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PLauderdale30
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Strauss has been mentioning Figgins, Bay, Dye & Austin Kearns as players the Cards would go after if Holliday bolts. |
Austin Kearns......?
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CrashDavis16
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| Strauss has been mentioning Figgins, Bay, Dye & Austin Kearns as players the Cards would go after if Holliday bolts. |
Austin Kearns......? |
I had the same reaction. I'd rather have Nady or basically anyone else over Kearns.
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mikehurt88
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If we go from Matt Holliday to Austin Kearns in LF I'm gonna throw a fit.....If nothing else give Allen Craig the shot before you go that low...
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chevyman58
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| CrashDavis16 wrote: |
| PLauderdale30 wrote: |
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| Strauss has been mentioning Figgins, Bay, Dye & Austin Kearns as players the Cards would go after if Holliday bolts. |
Austin Kearns......? |
I had the same reaction. I'd rather have Nady or basically anyone else over Kearns. |
"Anyone else"? 
I'm not suggesting him by any means, but Chris Duncan would be a substantial upgrade to Kearns. |
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